There is - you know, there's receipts for rented cars and license plates and guns and hand prints and palm prints and fingerprints. You know, I want to wait until I'm in a court.

They called themselves an army. They were planning on recruiting more armies. They were planning on splitting up and forming smaller cells and going into different areas, recruiting more members and just growing until they had started a full scale war in this country.

Well, you know, one lawyer says I'm the only witness and I'm not credible. Another lawyer says this witness - there's tons of evidence that's been available for years.

Well, you know, they were - they were a terrorist group. They - when I was kidnapped they published all of their statements about their war that they declared on the United States.

You know, sitting in the car when they got back in and - first of all, it was relief. I was not - there were two get away cars or switch cars they were called. And, you know, the group tended to include everyone.

For me, my awakening came when I was kidnapped.

And for any victim of a violent crime, when you actually get to go in and realize and see their faces and know that they can't hurt you any more, there is no feeling like that. It finally frees you from a lot of demons.

I frankly don't think it's going to be a successful war on terrorism until law enforcement agencies like the FBI are willing to share with other law enforcement agencies. If they can't share information, there's no way this war can be won.

I mean, they call it Stockholm Syndrome and post traumatic stress disorder. And, you know, I had no free will. I had virtually no free will until I was separated from them for about two weeks.

And, you know, like I said, I'm not looking forward to a trial.

Even to me, as I was trying to tell the government what had happened, it just didn't seem to matter.

I finally figured out what my crime was. I lived. Big mistake.

I had been, you know, held in the closet for two months and, you know, abused in all manner of ways. I was very good at doing what I was told.

I think Charles Manson was a hair's breath away from just being a terrorist. He wanted to start a war, too.

I was not inside the bank. But I am still not the only witness.

My daughters have grown up knowing all about my kidnapping and the case and what happened.

The son of the victim, you know, has been virtually forgotten until recently.

Through my mind, is just the horror of these people. I had been held by them, I knew how violent they were.

Well, you know, it's really been, you know, quite a trip for me.

You know, my daughters have been through their entire lives and knowing about my case.